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Cheap packaging and sellers - A Collector's Bane

Edit: Thank you to everyone that has been understanding of this topic. I was hesitant to post this because it could come off as snarky or criticizing. That wasn't the reason for this post; it was to raise awareness on how people lack the knowledge to ship valuable items and how merchandise is destroyed because of such lack of knowledge. I was still pretty angered that my limited edition Darkrai's packaging got destroyed for something that I thought was common knowledge to a seller that had 1,000+ rating inside Y!J.

Due to the circumstances and the vagueness of said seller, it's not possible for me to get a refund or anything. BUT, now I KNOW what to do to try to avoid this from happening and what a seller SHOULDN'T DO when shipping valuable items and I wanted to share that, in a ragey and sarcastic way BECAUSE MY DARKRAI IS WORTHLESS NOW. >_> I think when I get a little more time, I will think about writing some more definite tips on HOW TO PACK VALUABLE MERCHANDISE properly so people that are looking to improve as sellers, can learn something. Or mainly if you just don't want to crap on someone's day and be forced to give a refund and lose the item altogether.

There are many types of collectors as there are many types of sellers. Some collectors are in it for the fun, some are in it for the glory, some are the hoarders, some are the competitionists, some are in it for the thrill...there's too many types to name them all. There's also many types of sellers and shops. Some are in it for the money only, some want to make people happy, some are swimming in lots of merchandise because they bought it to get ONE tiny piece and need to get rid of it all no matter what,some are actually looking to make this a full time job, etc.

These shops cater to different tastes and they all have different policies. However, some of these policies are a bit vague and lack necessary information. I think if a shop is just in it for the money and could give two craps about the way they ship a limited edition/MiP item or they want to get rid of stuff and don't really want to be bothered in protecting their merchandise, they should clearly state so. THIS IS COMPLETELY FINE; you will then cater to a different group of people and can save yourself from having to give a refund to a more serious collector that is after good packaging or mint tags. Or even better, you can save yourself negative feedback that will really make sure you lose customers. If you are willing to protect your merchandise upon request or already do this, this should be stated, too. Nobody is going to break a nail (or in my case, a shadow claw) over typing a few extra sentences on their packing policies.

This situation has happen to me a few times now during the last six months I've been into collecting...but this last time was the last straw. It has even happened to me inside the community, Ebay, and way too many times on Y!J(yes, I have chosen the more expensive domestic shipping; this didn't change much other than make sure the item got there faster) but it wasn't with something I knew I wouldn't be able to replace easily. If it was enough to bother me a bit, I would pull the person aside (if possible) and reasonably explain to them what went wrong and how they can avoid this before they get someone that will really eat them alive. I would rather explain what went wrong than rage and learn nothing from it, like an ignorant idiot.

I will now ALWAYS have to go through that extra step and ask the seller what shipping materials or methods they use if I know there is something of great value to me and they didn't bother to explain in the description or policies. Its a pain but it's important enough to me. It's going to be specially annoying for the whole "commitment first" type of shops inside of here that don't specify their shipping methods but I would rather lose an item than pay for it and have it destroyed. Of course, I won't do this for everything and it would really help if people weren't so scared to be honest on their selling practices or trying to pull "fast ones" because everyone here is just trying to get along but we also have to be honest with ourselves. This is specially annoying when using Y!J but I'll just have to plan ahead and let my middleman service know: "Hey, I'm bidding on this thing that is worth a lot of money. I am paying for secure packaging but please let the seller know that if I win it, ship it in a box with protection because that's what I'm paying them for." And then hope for the best.


I wanna sit here and be that "I KNOW THAT FEEL" guy but I have a bunch of crap sitting on my bed waiting to be organized so I will probably check back later. ಠ⌣ಠ

And as always, still looking for the copper and gold Honedge figures.
Honedge Gold and Copper Metal Figures
It's been three whole weeks of searching and I still can't find a single copper or gold Honedge metal figure. These are the last two I need. Does anyone have these for sale? I'm looking to spend $6 for the copper and $10 for the gold (prices can be negotiated, though), not including shipping. Preferably from the same seller but beggars can't be choosers.

Also,if anyone just HAPPENS to have a MiP clear Darkrai Tomy that they wouldn't mind selling so I can replace my now broken one(I doubt it but a man can dream), I will GLADLY give it a good home, bring it breakfast in bed every morning, take long walks with it on the beach, give my unborn child for it, ANYTHING. In all seriousness, I cannot afford it now but if you can hang on to it until next week when I get payed, I would be forever thankful.

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Do you ever just lose the ability to even? Did you ever get something you wanted so much, just for it to be completely destroyed in the mail because of bad packaging and cheap people? Do you then question if this is REAL LIFE?! How someone could be this dense?! (To put it lightly)

On Wednesday, I too lost my ability to even.
My jimmies were so rustled, that I don't think I've ever been this rustled since I couldn't pre-order my copy of Pokemon Platinum and couldn't get my Giratina figurine. THAT WAS A GRIM DAY AND SO WAS WEDNESDAY. (I later found out they sold for like 9 bucks on Ebay but STILL.)

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THIS. Is what a seller shipped my MiP clear Darkrai Tomy in.


THIS. Is what my face looked like when I saw said packaging. I knew the amazing little box it came with was as good as "ran over by a truck". I've never even SEEN this thing with its box before and unless I'm completely blind, I have not seen one pop up ever until a month ago, so I was super happy to win this and it was such a clutch win, too. I threw what I had left into this Darkrai and I barely won. I KNEW I WOULDN'T SEE ONE AGAIN FOR A WHILE.



LOOK AT THOSE...DENTS20140608_090719
THIS. Is what my Darkrai looked like after its joyride. Long gone was the picture I had in my head of its mint packaging AND that was the only picture I had because I looked everywhere for a picture of this specific Tomy's packaging and all I could find was the loose figure.
This is where I lost it.
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Look at that disgusting.gash.in.the.plastic!!!

IS THIS REAL LIFE?! DUDE,I CAN'T.

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If you're a Tomy collector or a figurine collector, you know how damn precious the boxes are.
This goes for plush collectors, too. You know how precious the tags are and you are horrified when people just throw them into bubble mailers and don't even bother to attach a piece of cheese to the tag, to AT LEAST keep it from getting bent in the mail. Or maybe you just don't really care about packaging or tags, which is fine, but at least you know that you're getting what you paid for and not some destroyed version of it.

Most sellers give you a warning or put in their selling policies that they ship everything in bubble mailers and this is FINE, because you KNOW what you're going to get. Then there's people that don't specify and you hope to Bob they ship your MiP figurines in a small box or you ask them politely if it's possible to ship in a box. A cereal box, a rat poison box, a box of Poptarts. WHATEVER BOX THEY CAN FIND because the fragile plastic of these type of figurines will always suffer damage if you just put it in an envelope without any protection to that area.

Honestly, if this was a common release of Darkrai, I wouldn't have even cared too much because I could easily replace it. But hell, where am I going to find another clear Darkrai in box? This was a limited editioooooon!

"Sheesh Gengar, you're such a big nerd, crying over a doll. You probably selected the cheapest shipping method; QQ more."
IT'S AN ACTION FIGURE BTW.
This is what I thought, too. I thought I was at fault here for trying to save a bit of money but then I looked back and realized it wouldn't have made a difference.

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These Tomys all came from Japan, with the cheapest domestic shipping method selected. THEY WERE ALL SHIPPED IN TINY BOXES. This is why I almost always check to keep the seller's packaging if I get figures. They USUALLY get shipped in boxes and I trust the boxes to keep them better protected than if they just get thrown into a huge box with bubble wrap to be delivered to my house. Granted, the Gengar's box is a little bent at the top but I can deal with this. This isn't a deal breaker. For this guy to ship this LIMITED edition figure in a bag is unacceptable.

Why in the name of crap would you hang on to something so hard to get for all these years and then SHIP IT WITH NO PROTECTION?! WHY. There's people shipping these common things in boxes! Could it be because they actually have a brain? NOWAI. Is a brain limited edition, too?!

This Amazon Japan selleridiot had the nerve to charge 500 yen for shipping and they shipped me this other Darkrai Tomy in a mailer, who also suffered dents to both of the sides. Thankfully, it wasn't the worse and because this specific model is a bit pricey and not something really worth replacing, I let it go but it was a waste of my money. It seems that paying more doesn't mean better protection; it just gets there faster. It seems like my Darkrai Tomys always get the boot.
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How about the guy that shipped my precious Gengar backpack in a poly mailer? Not a BUBBLE poly mailer; a simple poly mailer. When pandaeatworld(they middlemanned my backpack for me, which I'm forever thankful for) told me this dude shipped it like that, the first thing that popped into my head was "R.I.P PLASTIC EYES". Thankfully, nothing terrible happened to it.
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The purpose of this thread wasn't just about my now worthless Darkrai; it's a heads up to all of you to learn from this and avoid getting your hopes and dreams crushed or crushing other people's hopes and dreams because of lack of knowledge.

-Unless the person doesn't care to keep the packaging mint and just wants the actual merchandise, DO NOT ship MiP items in bubble mailers. The box will suffer damage and if said box has plastic, it is very likely that the plastic will end up dented and in the worse case scenario, it will break.
A good point was brought up by puckyducky: it's also not wise to just throw it in a box and wing it. Some crumpled newspaper or bubble wrap around the plastic parts or edges will keep the figure's packaging from bumping all over the place and getting annihilated. If you cannot afford old newspaper or bubble wrap for whatever terrible reason, use loaves of bread to cushion the blows this poor figure will suffer in transit. I'm not telling you to use a whole roll of bubble wrap, a little bit will do.
-Unless the person isn't too serious for a plush, DO NOT throw it into a bubble mailer without at least a piece of cheese protecting the tag.
-Also, do not ship plushes with plastic eyes with no protection on the eyes; you're going to have a bad time.

If I had the chance to give these sellers feedback, I would have made it rain blood and would have asked for my money back. But with using a middleman, this isn't possible unfortunately. I now have a worthless Darkrai, with dents and gashes on the packaging. Will I replace it? The better question is, CAN I replace it?

Or am I insane here? I can't be the only one that this doesn't make sense to. Why hang on to something that is limited for all these years and the proceed to ship it with no protection? You might as well kick me in the groin,shave half my head, and then paint my nails pink. (It would have been fine if they got painted purple.) Better yet, throw it in front of a train, because that's how it's going to end up looking by the time it gets to me. At LEAST the front of the box didn't get trashed but the bottom caved in horribly.
And for the curious, this is what the clear Darkrai Tomy's box looks like:
R.I.P Clear Darkrai Tomy
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