Some MAJOR GA Rules updates.
These changes have been underway for months, with each one carefully worded to hopefully eliminate all questions or problems that may arise. I will highlight the major changes in this post, but you can also just go to theGROUP AUCTION RULES
First is the major major change. For everyone who has been plagued with problems due to these and is completely sick of 70% of community posts being nothing BUT these, you will rejoice. If you have never come across an issue, you might be confused or mad with me, but we will try to sum up the billions of reasons this needs to be done for the good of the community and the sanity of the mods.You may NOT Group Auction/Buy anything for sale by a member on the community itself
(IE; stuff members wish to dispose of in one lot). This is non-negotiable. If you wish to sell a box of stuff, it can not be GAed by the community unless it is for sale on a third-party auction site such as Ebay (putting it on your own LJ is not an applicable loophole as it is not an AUCTION site). The practice of GAing member's lots caused over half a year of endless confusion and trouble for PKMNcollectors mods and members, resulting in this ban of the practice. Our apologies.
Please note: If you put a lot on Ebay to be GAed by the community, and you add a reserve price to try to force them to bid and shell out the maximum amount they raised, or get a friend to shill bid to the same effect, this is exploitation of the members and the GA system and will result in an instant ban. We're on to you. Don't even bother.
"But why? I love them and they are great." If this is your reaction, below one can find a list of the sorts of problems these member lot GA's have created. So many in fact, that when we tried to tackle it, we would have needed multiple pages of new rules just to keep them in check, and some of the issues are simply impossible to moderate at all! It causes ten times the work for mods, and headaches for many people involved, runners and sellers alike. This is an extremely busy community with tough issues even before this trend began, and the time has come. It's for the best, I know it. Who could have guessed that you and Member Lot GA's, somehow someway, we have to say, goodbye.( Collapse )
Unfortunately, even if those reasons have not stirred you into agreement, this is a non-negotiable rule, and will not be removed. Which means:-Member Lot GA's that have raised the proper amount and are in the payment/shipping process can finish.
-The ones that are ongoing and have not yet been able to raise the asked total must be canceled. I apologize for any wasted time and effort on the part of the runners.
-If you were ready to post a lot and hint that it ought to become a GA and are angry or disappointed, you can still put it on Ebay and advertise your Ebay auction as long as you have sales permission. You can still post lots for sale to the community of course! This was always OK! It simply will not become a GA in that case. Someone will have to buy it.
These are other noteworthy changes, rewordings, and updates. Please take notice!What is "realistic worth" (for a claim)?
If it is a rather rare or sought after item, check/ask the community or ebay/Y!J to see what sorts of prices the item has recently sold for. Usually, something around that area or somewhat lower will be just fine. For example: if you see it last sold for 100$, you may claim it for 75-80$. It isn't low enough to cause an issue, and it is high enough to claim this is its "realistic worth". DO NOT BEGIN ARGUMENTS IF YOU THINK A GA RUNNER'S CLAIM IS TOO LOW. DO NOT HARASS OR BADGER THEM. Simply contact a moderator to discuss it with the runner. That means you are no longer allowed to be confront GA runners for their claim prices, especially if their claim is only 5-10$ under what it last sold for. Claims do NOT NEED TO BE the EXACT price the item last sold for. NO ITEM that is not currently on shelves has an exact price or worth!What is a reasonable amount of claims?
Up to 3 items is a typical amount claimed by runners, with one or two items being the most common amount claimed. In most cases, any more than 3 claimed items is unreasonable, as it is too big a percentage of the items. If you want to claim the majority of items in a lot, it is better to simply buy it yourself -- GAs are not designed for runners to get member help in buying armfuls of plush just for themselves. However, sometimes lots include hundreds of little items -- in cases like this, you may claim more than three of the items, as it barely begins to scratch the surface of the majority. Just ask if you are unsure.( Collapse )
FINALLY but an update I know many will love.WE NOW HAVE A FORMALIZED PUNISHMENT SYSTEM FOR NON-PAYING BUYERS AND BIDDERS
In summer we brought you the new, 3+ negatives loses you your sales permission rule! But what about non paying buyers, you cried? What do we do about them? It was a tough problem, but a simple solution was just around the corner.As you can see on the Wall of Shame
, people who buy and then do not pay will now be temporarily banned, until all payments have been made, and possibly for longer depending upon the severity of the problem. Please check the Wall of Shame for updates on who may or may not be allowed to sell or buy at the moment. If you have a non-paying buyer, please give them negative feedback! It helps strengthen the case for their temporary ban.
Any questions, problems with wording, or whatever whatnot whatever there may be, just comment and ask. DON'T jump on people with potentially unpopular opinions in the comments. Leave it to us.